"From Vice, the unsurprising but still infuriating news that Shell’s massive “carbon-capture” plant in Alberta, paid for by hundreds of millions of Canadian tax dollars, is emitting 50% more greenhouse gases than it’s capturing. The difference in annual emissions is the equivalent of 1.2 million cars."
-I'm glad you cited that one. The problem in a nutshell, the minoriity within the minority.
Thanks for this thoughtful piece. You hit the nail on the head by observing that we are both trapped and complicit in these systems. And yet, I’m heartened by theories of change that describe a tipping point. With so many voices in so many places, maybe we’re closer than we think. Whatever happens, climate action is meaningful work that is rather be doing than flying to a private island in a private jet.
I'm glad you reshared this one. I've written about tripping over "we" before, too, and still get stuck on it. Haven't found a good answer, but whew do I like the direct way Greta Thunberg put it. Maybe the more of us who write about these discrepancies, the more we (!) will find even better ways to address them.
Nice informative essay about what we means - or doesn't. I feel that Western peoples are just not willing to make any sacrifice their lifestyles - even a little bit to have a lesser carbon footprint. Just suggesting cutting back on meat consumption or turning down thermostats - putting on a sweater, recycling clothing etc. gets a lot folks defensive and uptight. My father (dead now) was a child of th Depression and WW2 - when citizens did make sacrifices for the greater good. Food stuffs were rationed and my father would go around his neighborhood collecting junked metals for the war effort against Nazis and fascism. My father was also an brilliant electrical engineer and understood the approaching green house CO2 emissions caused global warming crisis when only a small handful of smart folks did back int he 1960/70s - when the extreme effects were not yet apparent to the average person. Yet even now when extreme weather events are a daily occurrence - it seems the majority of older citizens just keep their heads stuck in the sand! However, as a HS teacher in NY for 10 years - The good news is the youth do understand and are anxious to fix it ASAP - but still have no power. But this will change as the now very old baby-boomers finally retire from government positions and die off. I pray for divine intervention to allow humans some more time to fix the mess we have created.
It was fun to listen to you ramble on about food in the Antarctic on Gastropod. Who knew the origin of hoosh? I was glad to learn more about it but glad to not have to eat it.
I hope you haven't been to the point of liking hoosh! Those guys back then did some nutty stuff, surviving in some scary and dire situations. Wow. And, lucky to be on Gastropod. They do a great job.
"From Vice, the unsurprising but still infuriating news that Shell’s massive “carbon-capture” plant in Alberta, paid for by hundreds of millions of Canadian tax dollars, is emitting 50% more greenhouse gases than it’s capturing. The difference in annual emissions is the equivalent of 1.2 million cars."
-I'm glad you cited that one. The problem in a nutshell, the minoriity within the minority.
I'm getting a bunny.
Thanks for this thoughtful piece. You hit the nail on the head by observing that we are both trapped and complicit in these systems. And yet, I’m heartened by theories of change that describe a tipping point. With so many voices in so many places, maybe we’re closer than we think. Whatever happens, climate action is meaningful work that is rather be doing than flying to a private island in a private jet.
I'm glad you reshared this one. I've written about tripping over "we" before, too, and still get stuck on it. Haven't found a good answer, but whew do I like the direct way Greta Thunberg put it. Maybe the more of us who write about these discrepancies, the more we (!) will find even better ways to address them.
Nice informative essay about what we means - or doesn't. I feel that Western peoples are just not willing to make any sacrifice their lifestyles - even a little bit to have a lesser carbon footprint. Just suggesting cutting back on meat consumption or turning down thermostats - putting on a sweater, recycling clothing etc. gets a lot folks defensive and uptight. My father (dead now) was a child of th Depression and WW2 - when citizens did make sacrifices for the greater good. Food stuffs were rationed and my father would go around his neighborhood collecting junked metals for the war effort against Nazis and fascism. My father was also an brilliant electrical engineer and understood the approaching green house CO2 emissions caused global warming crisis when only a small handful of smart folks did back int he 1960/70s - when the extreme effects were not yet apparent to the average person. Yet even now when extreme weather events are a daily occurrence - it seems the majority of older citizens just keep their heads stuck in the sand! However, as a HS teacher in NY for 10 years - The good news is the youth do understand and are anxious to fix it ASAP - but still have no power. But this will change as the now very old baby-boomers finally retire from government positions and die off. I pray for divine intervention to allow humans some more time to fix the mess we have created.
Yeah, trail food is its own unique food form. Salsa and lettuce sandwich...mmmm.
It was fun to listen to you ramble on about food in the Antarctic on Gastropod. Who knew the origin of hoosh? I was glad to learn more about it but glad to not have to eat it.
Earth is cooler with the atmosphere, water vapor, 30% albedo not warmer.
Ubiquitous GHE heat balance graphics use bad math& badder physics.
The kinetic heat transfer modes of the contiguous atmospheric molecules render the “extra” GHE LWIR energy of a BB surface impossible.
Consensus science has a well documented history of being wrong & abusing those who dared to challenge it.
GHE & CAGW are wrong so alarmists resort to fear mongering, lies, lawsuits, censorship & violence.
288 K w GHE – 255 K wo GHE = 33 C cooler, -18 C, Earth.
Just flat wrong.
YouTube: Greenhouse Effect Theory Goes Kerbluey
GHE balance calculated 396 up/333 “back”/2nd net 63 unreal perpetual “extra” energy loop.
Just flat wrong.
YouTube: Atmospheric Heat Balances That Don't
Earth radiating 396 W/m^2 LWIR as a 16 C BB.
Just flat wrong.
Search: “Bruges group kerbluey”
GHE
Just flat wrong.
CAGW
Just flat wrong.
More albedo and the Earth cools.
Less albedo and the Earth warms.
No albedo and the Earth becomes much like the Moon, barren, i.e. no water, 400 K lit side, 100 K dark.
Geoengineers know this, why don’t they also admit it violates the frozen ice ball of GHE theory?
MONEY??!!
“TFK_bams09”
Average solar constant of 1,364 W/m^2 arrives at the top of the atmosphere.
Divide by 4 to average this discular area over a spherical area.
(Sphere of r has 4 times the area as a disc of r. This is Fourier’s model which even Pierrehumbert says is no good.)
1,364/4=341
Apply 30% albedo.
341*.7=238.7 (239)
Deduct 78 absorbed in atmosphere.
Net/net of 161 arrives at surface.
Per LoT 1 161 is ALL!! that can leave.
0.9 ground + 17 sensible + 80 latent + 1st 63 LWIR (by remaining difference) and balance is closed!!!!
(1st 63 LWIR is MIA??? Where did it go?? Did TFK palm it like a magic act??)
Where does this extra 396 upwelling come from??
It is the theoretical LWIR from a S-B BB calculation at 16 C, 289 K, that fills the denominator of the emissivity ratio, i.e. 63/396=0.16.
It is not real, it is “extra”, it violates LoT 1.
The 396 upwelling “measurement”/333 “back” cold to warm/a 2nd 63 LWIR GHE loop violates LoT 1 & 2.
Remove the 396/333/63 GHE loop from the graphic and the balance still holds.
Those who claim to measure 400 +/- W/m^2 upwelling from the surface are applying an incorrect emissivity.
This graphic and all of its clones are trash.
The kinetic heat transfer processes of the contiguous atmospheric molecules render a surface BB impossible.
Energy leaving any thermal system = Conduction + Convection + Advection (wind) + Latent (water condensation and evaporation) + Radiation = 100 %
63/(17+80+63) = 0.16
A BB only exists in a vacuum as I demonstrate by experiment.
There is no GHE and no CO2 driven CAGW.
I hope you haven't been to the point of liking hoosh! Those guys back then did some nutty stuff, surviving in some scary and dire situations. Wow. And, lucky to be on Gastropod. They do a great job.